A certain friend of the blog has written about this (at least twice), as has Skeptical Raptor. David Gorski / March 18, 2021 In deze video legt immunoloog Herman Favoreel uit hoe NK-cellen werken (lees eronder voort): Hoever staat de wereld nu in het onderzoek naar NK-vaccins? Dit standpunt is niet onomstreden. Er zijn overigens niet veel mutaties nodig voor een bacterie om resistent te worden tegen een antibioticum. [Editors note: Scott Gavura had circumstances pop up that prevented him from producing a post for today. Likes. VRT journalist Vincent Merckx melde dat Vanden Bossche niet wou reageren, die informatie is dus vals. Thus if evidence emerges that particular variants do appear to influence vaccine efficacy, it should be possible to periodically reformulate the vaccines so that they better match the circulating strains. Hierbij vertegenwoordigt hij standpunten die slechts door een heel kleine minderheid van wetenschappelijke experts wordt gedeeld. Daar werkte hij onder meer aan plannen voor de bestrijding van een mogelijke ebola-pandemie. Such claims are generally an offshoot of another favorite antivaccine claim, namely that the diseases being vaccinated against are so innocuous that vaccinating against them is overkill and allowing infection and natural herd immunity to occur is better, a trope that has also been resurrected about COVID-19, a disease thats killed well north of 500K people in just the US in a little over a year. Several variations of the originally isolated strain have emerged since the start of the pandemic, and some of these variants are more infectious, contagious, or possibly deadly. Because of their fast (NK cells) and universally protective effect, Univac vaccines are uniquely suited to prevent pathogenic agents from escaping host immune responses as of an early stage of infection or immune-mediated disease. By Geert Van den Bossche Nov 6, 2018 Activity Leefbaarheid en mobiliteit zijn belangrijke uitdagingen binnen de Deltaregio. Again, the possibility that COVID-19 might be developing resistance to vaccines or immune escape is not a reason to halt the vaccination campaign. Also, as I said at the time, while it is possible that the B. pertussis bacteria is developing resistance to the vaccine through natural selection, the evidence that it is doing so struck me as weak and preliminary, just as the evidence claiming that SARS-CoV-2 is evolving to be resistant to current vaccines strikes me as weak and preliminary. Hij was daarbij kritisch over de veiligheid van een ebolavaccin. If the virus manages to do so, it can benefit from the (momentarily) suppressed innate immunity, thereby causing disease in an increasing number of these subjects and ensuring its own propagation. There's even grift likely involved! Indien hij gelijk krijgt natuurlijk. Perhaps no more tired a trope exists in the world of faux cures than the "I have found a problem that no other scientist in the world has thought of and only my untested and unproven cure can stop it" gambit. Er is al vaak gevaccineerd tijdens een epidemie, en dat heeft nog nooit tot grote sterfte geleid. Dr Vanden Bossche also coordinated the Ebola vaccine As stated, I am not against vaccination. While one can barely make any incorrect scientific statements without being criticized by peers, it seems like the elite of scientists who are currently advising our world leaders prefer to stay silent. In landen als Isral en het Verenigd Koninkrijk dalen de cijfers in goede richting, in de VS en de UAE is er een lichte stijging. Vaccinologists, scientists and clinicians are blinded by the positive short-term effects in individual patents, but dont seem to bother about the disastrous consequences for global health. Specifically, scientists have long been pointing out that, the more we let COVID-19 circulate, the more likely virus variants that can escape the immune response to the vaccine (and/or to natural infection) are to emerge, and they use this argument as a rationale for vaccinating as many people as possible as fast as possible, in order to slow that circulation of the virus to as low a rate as possible, thus reducing the opportunities for strains resistant to the vaccine and strains able to re-infect previously infected people to emerge. Whats particularly dangerous about Dr. Vanden Bossches misinformation is that, on the surface, he appears to be a vaccine expert, whom antivaxxers touting his open letter (and all the follow-up science hes been Tweeting and posting to his website) have been describing as a worlds expert in vaccines. I have to point out that coronaviruses, in particular SARS-CoV-2, the coronavirus that causes COVID-19, do not mutate especially fast as RNA viruses go. Je laten vaccineren lijkt wel het nieuwe dopen. Maar een virus zou een hele resem mutaties moeten doormaken om het afweersysteem van ons lichaam te omzeilen. Daarna werkte hij als Senior Program Officer voor de Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation en als Senior Ebola Program Manager voor de Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization (GAVI). 721. To follow Dr . Snoeck: Je zou al een zeer complexe virusmutatie op verschillende vlakken nodig hebben. Vanden Bosche argues that widespread vaccination will put evolutionary pressure on the viruses to develop adaptations in this case changes to the spike protein that allows the virus to infect cells in a way that will allow it to escape the vaccine's protection. "Zelfs van levende kunstenaars als Dillemans worden er tekeningen Herman De Croo gaat extra vergoeding bovenop pensioen schenken aan Stichting tegen Kanker, Mannen getuigen over seksueel geweld tijdens de oorlog: "Het is erger dan afgeranseld worden", Zus van Olivier Vandecasteele reageert op uitspraak Grondwettelijk Hof: "Beste dat wij konden verwachten", Acteur Tom Sizemore (61), bekend van "Saving private Ryan" en "Heat", overleden. Variants are "a thing to keep an eye on," Saad Omer, an epidemiologist who serves as director of the Yale Institute for Global Health, told us in a phone interview. Hij werkte in zijn carrire ook aan vaccins, maar publiceerde daar zeer weinig over en bleef nooit lang aan het werk in de sector. Geert Vanden Bossche Contribute to IMDb. If there emerge SARS-CoV-2 variants that are less susceptible to the immunity produced by COVID-19 vaccines, the answer is to reformulate the vaccines! En wat met die massale sterftegolf die Geert Vanden Bossche voorspelt? This growing threat has led what many senior public health officials in the UK and the U.S. to describe as the post-antibiotic apocalypse and the end of modern medicine. It is estimated that 50,000 annual deaths occur in Europe and the U.S. from infections that antibiotics have lost the power to treat. So in fewer than 80 years, we have reached the point at which, for example, with prosthetic surgery, wards are being closed down, patients are being sent home, and operations are no longer possible, because once the prosthesis becomes infected with such bacteria, it is virtually impossible to get rid of them. Were in a race with the new variants, Sara Del Valle, a computational epidemiologist at the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico explained in a March 2021 feature in the scientific journal Nature. Wie is Geert Vanden Bossche? Des te meer in ons land aangezien hij een Belg is. Hes also started making rounds on the podcast/vlog interview circuit: You can watch yesterday's interview with Philip McMillan here: https://t.co/sx9fxpsyHg Thanks for all your support, we will need it. Door verder te surfen gaat u akkoord met. Clearly, variability in the spike glycoprotein can affect the efficiency of antibody neutralisation. An example of a leaky vaccine is the vaccine against Mareks disease, highly contagious and deadly viral disease of chicken that is a major problem in the poultry industry, and Dr. Vanden Bossche relies on this precedent, as Nirenberg explains: For a moment though, lets entertain the notion that the vaccines are leaky. Unfortunately, Dr. Vanden Bossches open letter has gone viral and is being spread on antivaccine social media everywhere as slam dunk evidence that COVID-19 vaccines will cause a global catastrophe by selecting for the evolution of highly transmissible and deadly variants of COVID-19 that will escape immunity due to vaccines. In verschillende video's op YouTube waarschuwt de Belgische wetenschapper Geert Vanden Bossche voor een ramp nog groter dan de coronacrisis zelf. Dan vraag ik me af waar we mee bezig zijn. Is Vanden Bossche fout met zijn theorie of is hij een kiezel in de schoen van de media en experten die het debat domineren omtrent de covid aanpak. Aangezien het geen debat betreft maar een reactie op een reactie in de vorm van een monoloog is het als leek moeilijk in te schatten wie er wetenschappelijk gelijk heeft. Evidence exists that they achieve this effect even against the variant strains of SARS-CoV-2. As a result, I thought it worth providing this rebuttal and links to an even better rebuttal, to SBM readers in order to disseminate this information more widely. But wait, says Dr. Vanden Bossche. The world is changing and the change is gaining speed ! Deze pagina is voor het laatst bewerkt op 23 feb 2023 om 10:56. Waiting for Vanden Bossche's "universal vaccine" is no way to win such a race. Basically, Dr. Vanden Bossches open letter is a mess that directly channels Andrew Wakefield. Geert Vanden Bossche, PhD, DVM Independent Researcher --- Mar 2018 - Present Managing Director VARECO Sep 2012 - 2019 Europe Independent vaccine consultant with a long- standing track record in Academia, Vaccine Industry and Global Health (GH); providing support on vaccine project management as I think that grifters recognize fellow grifters, and Frei recognized that Dr. Vanden Bossche is stoking fear of existing COVID-19 vaccines to produce a sales rationale for his own NK-based vaccine, just as Andrew Wakefield stoked fear of the MMR in order to support his own measles vaccine. So, why then should there be a major concern using these vaccines to fight Covid-19? Vervolgens gaat hij in op hetgeen op VRTNWS en in Knack is verschenen als reactie op zijn wetenschappelijke bevindingen. De vier wetenschappers die we contacteerden, begrijpen niet hoe daar ook maar iets van zou kunnen kloppen. Ik heb een lijst van professoren die mijn bezorgdheden delen en zal deze publiceren. Voorlopig dus nog even koffiedik kijken en vooral genieten van de lente. De community ruimte is een vrije online ruimte (blog) waar vrijwilligers en organisaties hun opinies kunnen publiceren. Dr. Vanden Bossche has publicized his letter on Twitter: In this open letter I am appealing to the @WHO and all stakeholders involved, no matter their conviction, to immediately declare such action as THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY OF INTERNATIONAL CONCERN. Actually, its not just eerily similar, its almost exactly the same, namely that immunity from vaccines is an evolutionary selective pressure just like the evolutionary selective pressure from antibiotics to which the organism can become resistant. Kunnen complimenten de wereld verbeteren? In die zin is Vanden Bossche best wel een lastig gegeven, een opposant tegen de eenzijdige stem die gehoord wordt. ", On top of the false notion that imperfect vaccine antibodies will hamper the overall immune system on its own, Vanden Bossche claims that the prolonged lockdowns have left our innate immune system out of practice. Hoe minder je kopieert, hoe kleiner de kans dat er een kopieerfout gebeurt.. You can read the links if you want to know more, but the short version is that the acellular pertussis vaccine works but its immunity wanes (as it does after natural infection); this can be corrected with additional booster shots. Unless I am scientifically proven wrong, it is difficult to understand how current human interventions will prevent circulating variants from turning into a wild monster. Het is opmerkelijk dat alle tegenstemmen worden gesmoord. Een vorige versie van dit stuk meldde dat Geert Vanden Bossche een onbestaande functie bij de Universiteit Gent claimde op LinkedIn. Een uitbraak van difterie in een vluchtelingenkamp in Bangladesh onlangs. En dan moet je weten dat het coronavirus eigenlijk niet zo heel veel muteert in vergelijking met bijvoorbeeld de griep. One such claim that I hadnt yet seen is another favorite antivax claim, although admittedly its a rather niche claim in that you dont hear it too often. Visit Amazon.de's Geert Vanden Bossche Page and shop for all Geert Vanden Bossche books. While Vanden Bossche's ideas may be rooted in actual scientific concepts, his argument quite explicitly relies on sweeping assumptions. Peter van den Bossche (born 1959) is a professor of international economic law at the University of Bern ( World Trade Institute ). Immunocompromised individuals with persistent COVID-19 infections, in particular, may play a huge role in the development of variants. As the innate immune system cannot remember the pathogens it encountered (innate immunity has no so-called immunological memory), we can only continue to rely on it provided we keep it trained well enough. Is het Russisch volk goedgelovig en volgzaam? Its at this point, though, that Dr. Vanden Bossche throws in a twist specific to COVID-19 in which he argues that undertaking a mass vaccination campaign during a pandemic is dangerous. Come to think of it, the similarities between Dr. Vanden Bossche and Andrew Wakefield strike me as stronger than ever now, given that, as well documented by Brian Deer, Wakefield basically published his fraudulent science to support the claim that the MMR vaccine causes autism in order to make a market for his own single vaccine against the measles. Een drietal weken geleden kwam viroloog en vaccin ontwikkelaar Geert Vanden Bossche naar buiten met een ernstige bezorgdheid omtrent de massavaccinatie tegen covid-19 die momenteel wereldwijd in ongeziene vaart aan de gang is. Telkens is men middenin de uitbraak beginnen te vaccineren om die onder controle te krijgen. His argument sounds a lot like an argument Andrew Wakefield once made for MMR. Despite taking Vanden Bossches assertions extremely seriously, these high-profile alternative-media figures dont even do basic due diligence such as looking into McMillan, whos the man who interviewed Vanden Bossche, or the company McMillan is apparently affiliated with, Vejon Health. So-called leaky vaccines are vaccines that prevent disease, but do not appreciably slow transmission of the pathogen. For example, just before the three-minute mark in the video interview of Vanden Bossche by McMillan, Vanden Bossche indicates hes a long-time vaccine developer. Dat is verre van zeker op dit moment. Indeed, antibodies (Abs) produced by our own immune system can be considered self-made antiviral antibiotics, regardless of whether they are part of our innate immune system (so-called natural Abs) or elicited in response to specific pathogens (resulting in so-called acquired Abs). Hoewel n dosis de besmettelijkheid al doet dalen, blijft het wel belangrijk dat beide dosissen van een coronavaccin toegediend worden. It has been observed that over time Mareks disease virus has become more virulent, and this has been attributed classically to a leaky vaccine effect. Vanden Bossche neemt geen woord terug van zijn stellingen. If we, human beings, are committed to perpetuating our species, we have no choice lef [sic] but to eradicate these highly infectious viral variants. Deze sfeer is mee geschept door de experten en de media. Bovendien volstaan enkel de NK-cellen meestal niet, maar ze geven het immuunsysteem wel de tijd om een krachtigere respons aan te maken.. If you are a potential patient and found this page through a Google search, please check out Dr. Gorski's biographical information, disclaimers regarding his writings, and notice to patients here. "The food you eat isnt sterile, he explained, the dust you inhale isnt sterile, the water you drink isnt sterile.. In the case of antibiotics, its called developing antibiotic resistance; in the case of vaccines, its called immune escape. (Truly, those were simpler times.). Before this open letter, I hadnt recalled ever having heard of Dr. Vanden Bossche before, so I looked around. Ze vindt wereldwijd slechts twee onderzoeken naar een NK-vaccin tegen COVID-19, die bovendien allebei nog niet van start zijn gegaan. This problem will be exacerbated, he claims, because people who have been vaccinated (and/or social distancing and staying inside during the pandemic) will be less capable of fighting off those strains than someone who has not been vaccinated. These assumptions come without scientific studies or data to support them and indeed are not always reasonable. Maar een vaccin werkt niet rechtstreeks in op een virus." A recent review article suggests that immune escape by variants of SARS-CoV-2 is a possibility, but one that hasnt been definitively observed or demonstrated yet: So is there cause for concern? This makes no sense, Yale's Omer told us. Over the last several months, Ive listed a number of examples of this phenomenon of antivaxxers recycling hoary tropes to apply them to COVID-19 vaccines; for example, claims that vaccines kill, cause infertility, cancer, autoimmune disorders, and Alzheimers disease, and are loaded with toxins, among several others, such as the claim that they alter your DNA. However, even if this phenomenon occurs with a human vaccineit doesnt, as far as we knowthats an even more compelling reason to be vaccinated. Vanden Bossche has created a scientific-sounding argument that vaccination will encourage the production of COVID-19 variants that our immune systems will be unprepared to fight. Integendeel, de uitbraken zijn onder controle gebracht.. Opleiding [ bewerken | brontekst bewerken ] Een vaccin zet je immuunsysteem aan het werk, dat op zijn beurt het virus te lijf zal gaan. The way we drive projects, the way we prepare our organizations for the change ahead even the metrics to calculate the success of a project are changing.<br><br>But with all the management methodologies and agile techniques in our backpack, are we running projects . Hij waarschuwt met name voor de risico's van het vaccineren van kinderen met mRNA-vaccins. Hij wijst erop dat hij geen soort van hobby viroloog is zoals hij wordt weggezet in de media en benoemt zijn ervaringen en diplomas waaronder bepaalde zaken die niet veel Vlamingen hem hebben voorgedaan. Hij beweert dat de coronavaccins ertoe zullen leiden dat het coronavirus verder muteert en zo bestand wordt tegen die vaccins. Ten derde wijst hij erop dat de gezondheidsrisico's van Covid-19 voor gezonde kinderen, zoals ziekenhuisopname, verwaarloosbaar klein zijn en dat vaccinatie vanuit dat oogpunt voor die groep geen enkele zin heeft. There is a sound scientific rationale to assume that it is possible to prime NK cells in ways for them to recognize and kill Coronaviruses at large (include all their variants) at an early stage of infection. VRT en Knack, kijk eens in de spiegel en laat ons toe de interviews die ik met jullie had publiek te maken. Seriously, as a vaccine expert, how is it that Dr. Vanden Bossche does not know this? Zoals gemeld ging het dispuut over de volledige publicatie of delen ervan die door VRTNWS werden geselecteerd. Dat punt maakte ook Otto Yang, professor Infectieziekten aan de Universiteit van California, in de krant USA Today. Well, similar to the rules applying to classical antimicrobial antibiotics, it is paramount that our self-made antiviral antbiotcs [sic] are made available in sufficient concentration and are tailored at the specific features of our enemy. As a dedicated virologist and vaccine expert I only make an exception when health authorities allow vaccines to be administered in ways that threaten public health, most certainly when scientific evidence is being ignored. As I suspected, Dr. Vanden Bossche is selling something. As I like to say, if you ever write anything that channels Andrew Wakefield, you really should reconsider your life choices. This is a very confused argument. Dat klopt niet, de onbestaande functie werd vermeld bij enkele publicaties. Dat geeft de hoogst mogelijke bescherming en zal de verspreiding van het virus dus nog verder naar omlaag duwen. This will, indeed, require large vaccination campaigns. Dr. Vanden Bossche has also taken to social media to air his concerns, and his message has been enthusiastically embraced by antivaxxers: Lets just say this. Ook noemt Rien Emmery Vanden Bossche wat denigrerend veearts. Because his proposed solution appears to be a fantasy, its effect would be to stop vaccinations completely and replace them with nothing. De Belgische wetenschapper Geert Vanden Bossche heeft het internet veroverd met zijn waarschuwing voor een wereldwijde ramp: de massale coronavaccinaties zouden een virusvariant kunnen creren die tegen de vaccins bestand is waardoor veel doden zouden vallen. Deze pagina is voor het laatst bewerkt op 2 nov 2022 om 05:23. Samen zetten zij zich evenwel af tegen het beleid van keizer Jozef II en streefden zij naar de onafhankelijkheid van de Zuidelijke Nederlanden, hetgeen leidde tot de Brabantse Omwenteling (1789 - 1790). "Vanden Bossche received his DVM from the University of Ghent, Belgium, and his PhD degree in Virology from the University of Hohenheim, Germany. Hij kreeg achteraf de wind van voren van het parlement, maar 'antivaxer' Geert Vanden Bossche vertelde woensdag in het debat over vaccinatieplicht niet uitsluitend onzin. The classic example of a leaky vaccine is actually the one for Mareks disease, caused by a herpesvirus that infects chicken and causes lymphoma among other illnesses. He has a long list of companies and organizations he's worked with on vaccine discovery and preclinical research, including GSK, Novartis, Solvay Biologicals, and Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. As a scientist I do not usually appeal to any platform of this kind to make a stand on vaccine-related topics. Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche is a veterinary doctor who also has a Ph.D. in virology. #LikeMe is een Belgische muzikale jeugdserie die wordt uitgezonden sinds 2019. Het gaat ook om een therapeutisch vaccin. I noted then that there was no evidence that mass vaccination with MMR had produced variants of the measles vaccine resistant to the immunity produced by the vaccine, just as I note now that there is as yet no evidence that SARS-CoV-2 variants are resistant to the immunity produced by current COVID-19 vaccines. Its a common argument among antivaxxers that the reason were seeing more cases of pertussis in people who have been vaccinated against it is because pertussis is either evolving resistance, or because it is shifting to a different strain not covered by the vaccine. This material may not be reproduced without permission. Laat ons een sereen, publiek debat voeren over de vragen die van belang zijn in plaats van te twitteren. Notable people with the surname include: Aert van den Bossche (fl. Its a very interesting question. Mass vaccination programs, he claims, are "turning vaccinees into asymptomatic carriers" who can unknowingly spread these more dangerous strains by "shedding infectious variants." ), lets just review what Wakefield claimed about the MMR vaccine back in 2019. Experts and politicians have remained silent while obviously still eager to talk about relaxing infection prevention rules and springtime freedom. De nieuwsombudsman van VRT NWS ontving veel vragen over Vanden Bossche en ook de meeste berichten die we kregen via check@vrtnws.be gingen de voorbije weken over Vanden Bossche. Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization, Colloidal aspects of enteroviral infectivity in aqueous environments with special emphasis on poliovirus type 1, Factcheck: dierenarts verspreidt onjuistheden over het immuunsysteem en de coronavaccins, The Doomsday Prophecy of Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche, https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Geert_Vanden_Bossche&oldid=63871838. He also points out that there is new research challenging the previous dogma that leaky vaccines always select for more virulent strains of pathogen and cannot produce herd immunity. Zowel bij de experten, bij de politiek als binnen de media zouden er dan logischerwijs evaluaties moeten volgen van hoe en waarom men zo fout was. Jul 4, 2022 Replying to @GVDBossche This suboptimal immune pressure exerted by large populations is now confronted with a viral variant! 1 jaar oorlog in Oekrane: hoe geraken we hieruit? The more extensively the later age group will be vaccinated and hence, protected, the more the virus is forced to continue causing disease in younger age groups. Update information for Geert Vanden Bossche More at IMDbPro Contact Info: View agent, publicist, legal on IMDbPro Biography Awards Photo Gallery Filmography (by Job) Trailers and Videos Explore More Known For Compleetdenkers Self 2022 In verschillende video's op YouTube waarschuwt de Belgische wetenschapper Geert Vanden Bossche voor een ramp nog groter dan de coronacrisis zelf. Your membership is the foundation of our sustainability and resilience. Bij de vorming van de Verenigde Nederlandse Staten in 1789 vormden zij de eerder conservatieve fractie tegenover de vonckisten. Let me try to explain this by means of a more easily understood phenomenon: Antimicrobial resistance. Vanden Bossche has been able to avoid allegations of peddling such a cure at least in the credulous anti-vaccine community because his resume legitimately includes stints at companies or initiatives involved in vaccine development, including The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. Freya Van den Bossche (born 26 March 1975) is a Belgian ( Flemish) politician and daughter of prominent former Belgian politician Luc Van den Bossche. Exploring issues and controversies in the relationship between science and medicine. NK cells have increasingly been described to be endowed with the capacity to acquire immunological memory. De artikels die hij over vaccins schreef, verschenen enkel in rooftijdschriften (tijdschriften waarin je tegen betaling studies kunt publiceren zonder dat die door wetenschappelijke collega's zijn gecontroleerd).[3]. Wij staken ons licht op bij verschillende vakgenoten en hun oordeel over zijn stelling is eensluidend: Technische nonsens. Dat zal volgens hem wereldwijd tot veel doden leiden. As I go through Dr. Vanden Bossches open letter, Ill point out the similarities, while also noting differences when they occur. Zie het als een kopieermachine, legt immunoloog Hans-Willem Snoeck (Columbia University, New York)op zijn beurt uit. ", While a universal vaccine that could eradicate virtually any disease certainly sounds great, no evidence exists that such a vaccine has ever successfully been developed. It is, as McGill's Jonathan Jarry wrote and as Yale's Omer told us, a classic example of the appeal-to-nature fallacy that invokes the primacy of natural solutions, mechanisms, or substances over those deemed unnatural and human created. But only ongoing clinical trials will show whether vaccinated individuals recognise SARS-CoV-2 variants differently, and whether mutations decrease vaccine protection in some vaccinated individuals. Geert Vanden Bossche, PhD Geert Vanden Bossche, PhD, DVM, is a vaccine research expert. Its a rationale for developing reformulated booster vaccines that cover variants not well covered by the currently-used COVID-19 vaccines. Naturally grifters are going to use the same arguments, although I dont see any fraud in Dr. Vanden Bossche, other than his scientifically risible arguments. Het zou dan gaan om een wetenschappelijke vergissing met mogelijks ongeziene gevolgen. Holodomor: hoe grondig genformeerd zijn de Vlaamse Parl Stevenen we versneld af op een oorlog tegen China?

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