E,)Y~.x7 )J7_Kz~O]OX8y'b.w`6HQ#R4u ( The Sierra data seems more on line with what I have seen elsewhere, so I will start with their min. Sierra flat base over either 19.7 or 20 grs. For the .223, I loaded 24.5 grains with the Speer 52 grain BTHP match bullets for about 2850 fps and started shooting 1/2" groups in my Ruger 77 long Range Rifle with very little experimenting. Very accurate and consistent. Click the Sierra icons here Hodgdon MSDS on the new powder. I have an 8lb sealed jug of 4198 that I won't use. Seems that most don't like it because of the problems with their powder measures - not because of accuracy issues. Hornady is now producing its ELD Match bullets in 52-, 73-, 75- and 80-grain weights. Let me know Thanks! 0000012054 00000 n sharps4590. 1Ki2 =zruz3Y%$dRxu#SD2(?M? I use IMR 4198 with Sierra Matching 69 gr with very good results. I don't have a lot to add, was hoping others might chime in first. It was in the Hornady manual and the power was available so I picked it up. With the changes made to military loads and the 5.56 NATO cartridge by 1980, the rifling twist of mil-spec AR rifles was changed to 1:7 to better accommodate ammunition that contained heavier bullets. IMR recommends always consulting www.IMRReloading.com for the most accurate, up-to-date data. The most accurate load I use for both of my bolt rifles (1/12 & 1/9 twist) is 20-21gr. Am I correct? I used it briefly in 223, as for 4227, it was very promising accuracy wise with 300 grainers, but i um, did something dumb with the last pound I had. Its my go-to powder for cast 308 loads in several rifles. This has shot one hole groups for years. All Shotguns; Bolt Action Shotguns; . The .223 Remington (right) was based on the .222 Remington case (left). It is important to mention that the 5.56 NATO is not fully interchangeable with the .223 Remington. respective bolt-action designs in the 223 Remington. For several reasons, this cartridge was not accepted by the military, but Remington chose to introduce it commercially as the .222 Remington Magnum in 1957-1958. Dime sized groups at 150 yds. __________________ Knowing twist rate of your barrel would be helpful? While Im sure my Sun Devils accuracy results could be improved by experimenting with bulletseating depth (the most accurate load averaged 0.38 inch at 100 yards and had a COL of 2.250 inches), determining the appropriate powder charge weight for each specific bullet to achieve reliable and safe functioning overshadowed my concern of where to precisely seat the bullet for optimum accuracy. For more information, go towww.P65Warnings.ca.gov. It is also outstanding in cartridges like the 444 Marlin and 7.62 X 39. H4198 doesn't always produce enough gas to cycle ever rifle but IMR-4198 seems to. Using Hornady 40g V-Max and IMR4198. Since reloading for my Mini-14 starting back in the mid 80's I've had excellent results with H335, BLC-2, Win 748, Acc 2230. Maybe you'll have no issues but lot's do with 4198 powders in AR's. Google" port pressure ar15" Location and size of the port has a direct effect. Industry pressure guidelines for the .223 Remington were originally established at 52,000 CUP but today have been changed to 55,000 psi, while CIP is listed at 62,366 psi. Mag, IMR-4198 was pretty much the go to powder for a couple decades. 09-10-2014, 10:25 PM #6 marshall623 Boolit Master Join Date Jan 2011 Location Va. Posts 656 Its the most accurate powder I've used in my 14" contender with 55gr. Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. Not normal. Posts: 2203. 0000001516 00000 n Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. Sign up to get updates and access to exclusive promotions. This M1 Ball ammunition was designed for long-range machine-gun barrages, then a common military tactic, but by the time the Garand rifle appeared, the .50 BMG had taken over the long-range role, and .30-06 machine guns were primarily used at closer range. Forum. Going by the book today. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Only loaded a pound of it and moved on to AA2230, but it worked fine out of a mid-length carbine. All these have offered complete penetration on broadside shots. Rick, Your 24.7gr of H4198 with the 39 & 40 is 2.2 gr more powder than Hodgdon recommends for the 33gr bullet. Powders include IMR Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. I had about 250 pieces of Lake City (LC) 5.56 NATO brass already prepped and ready to load. All I have left for .223 is some IMR 4198 until my backordered 748 ships. Constitutional Carry may have a trap built in. It should be good for bullets up to at least 75 grains. They have to operate the gun safely and reliably before you can begin to evaluate their ballistic performance downrange. Despite this, most of the powders used . Hence, many call it the best powder for reloading 223. Lever Action Pump Action Semi-Auto Single Shot . I've been having excellent results with some very old IMR 4198 and Nosler 40 grain Ballistic tip bullets in my 11.5" SBR. Many reviews state that military cases are heavier than commercial brass. I use a lot of Varget in my WW2 era bolt rifles, have been going to work up a load using it in 223. When i pick up the handle it wants to cut the powder, i relieve the preasure on the handle a couple of times and it will work it's way threw. They typically weighed between 90.5 grains and 92.5 grains and on average held around 30.6 grains of water, measured level with the case mouth. Can't go wrong. Used to be when you asked about choosing a powder there was one answer. Reloading 223 Rem./5.56mm is mostly the usual routine. Thats not to say its just as easy to stuff a 77-grain bullet into the heaviest case youre reloading atop a full charge of BL-C(2) as it is with the lightest piece of brass in the batch. Also, I read that it works great with my .223. One sighter shot, then 5 shots for group. Thanks for the help guys. Play with it, you might find that magical combination. We'll see. IT WORKS REALLY GOOD ON MY 223 AMMO RELOADS. It's a very versatile powder with many applications. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser settings before proceeding. imr 4198 for 223 bolt action. The IMR 4198 with a minimum charge of 53.7 grs under a 300 gr. Thank you again. I have only shot 4198 in bolt guns, but there is no reason the ammunition would not work well in ARs. vMax shoot great in my Savage 110. Results for the 150 gr. I have on hand a few pounds of IMR 4198 that I normally use in my 6.8, and was looking into loading some 55 grain 223 rounds with it. 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. 50 gr. My experience shows, generally speaking, the faster-burn-rate choices work better with bullets weighing up to 60 grains. A few bolt-action sporting and target rifles have been fitted with 1:14 twist barrels, such as the Remington 40XB, Husqvarna and various Cooper rifles. Sierra Pro-Hunter 150 gr. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. This combination has proven to be very good from a number of rifles, not only mine. Savage 10 FCP-K 223 Rem Law Enforcement Bolt Action Rifle. x*",`P;e4Ok m > endstream endobj 85 0 obj 124 endobj 55 0 obj << /Type /Page /Parent 50 0 R /Resources 56 0 R /Contents [ 63 0 R 65 0 R 67 0 R 69 0 R 71 0 R 73 0 R 75 0 R 78 0 R ] /MediaBox [ 0 0 387 603 ] /CropBox [ 0 0 387 603 ] /Rotate 0 >> endobj 56 0 obj << /ProcSet [ /PDF /Text /ImageB ] /Font << /F1 58 0 R /F2 59 0 R >> /XObject << /Im1 76 0 R >> /ExtGState << /GS1 81 0 R /GS2 83 0 R >> /ColorSpace << /Cs6 57 0 R /Cs8 61 0 R >> >> endobj 57 0 obj [ /ICCBased 80 0 R ] endobj 58 0 obj << /Type /Font /Subtype /Type1 /FirstChar 32 /LastChar 151 /Widths [ 278 278 355 556 556 889 667 191 333 333 389 584 278 333 278 278 556 556 556 556 556 556 556 556 556 556 278 278 584 584 584 556 1015 667 667 722 722 667 611 778 722 278 500 667 556 833 722 778 667 778 722 667 611 722 667 944 667 667 611 278 278 278 469 556 333 556 556 500 556 556 278 556 556 222 222 500 222 833 556 556 556 556 333 500 278 556 500 722 500 500 500 334 260 334 584 350 0 350 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 350 0 350 350 0 222 333 333 350 0 1000 ] /Encoding /WinAnsiEncoding /BaseFont /OKLPHC+Helvetica /FontDescriptor 60 0 R >> endobj 59 0 obj << /Type /Font /Subtype /Type1 /Encoding /WinAnsiEncoding /BaseFont /Helvetica-Bold >> endobj 60 0 obj << /Type /FontDescriptor /Ascent 718 /CapHeight 718 /Descent -207 /Flags 32 /FontBBox [ -166 -225 1000 931 ] /FontName /OKLPHC+Helvetica /ItalicAngle 0 /StemV 88 /XHeight 523 /StemH 88 /CharSet (/one/eight/three/V/space/bullet/R/I/F/L/E/O/A/D/N/G/T/S/a/v/g/e/M/o/d/l/\ four/zero/two/quotedbl/x/six/W/i/n/c/h/s/t/r/period/nine/five/C/m/comma/\ H/f/b/u/quotedblleft/hyphen/quotedblright/w/parenleft/k/parenright/p/quo\ teright/y/exclam/seven/B/emdash/j/U/K/q/P/z/slash/Z/semicolon/X/asterisk\ /J/ampersand/Q/question/numbersign/colon) /FontFile3 79 0 R >> endobj 61 0 obj [ /Separation /PANTONE#20355#20C 57 0 R 82 0 R ] endobj 62 0 obj 1814 endobj 63 0 obj << /Filter /FlateDecode /Length 62 0 R >> stream I'm not a 223 shooter or owner however, with the two cartridges the 223 more less evolved from, the 222 Rem. .223 Remington (Hodgdon Data Using IMR Powder) reloading data with 221 loads. I got a 8 pound key of 4198 for my wifes bolt action 223. April 17th, 2019 - Imr 4198 Powder Reloading Data I can find load data with 25 gr Hornady s using IMR 4198 but nothing with 20 N120 is one of the suggested 17 Hornet powders in the latest Hornady manual A few test loads for the 458 SOCOM using IMR 4198 Powder and 300 grain this load data There are two options for acquiring data on the Hodgdon . Mostly with the 52 grain bullets. Back then a 55gr bullet was a heavy bullet in the 223 and about all I used Seem's factory barrels came with 1-9 twist's said to best balance that heavy bullet. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Nickel size+/- 5 shot groups at 100yds. Clearly, barrel twist rate and chamber throat dimensions do affect accuracy. Beth Shimanski of Savage introduces their all new straight-pull rifle. Examples include the Hornady 53- grain V-MAX with a G1 BC of .290, the Nosler 55-grain Ballistic Tip (.267 BC) and Sierra 55-grain BlitzKing (.271 BC). RL15 also meters well, I bought an 8lb jug of 4198 a couple years ago to do some volume loading. Begin with start loads and work up carefully to maximum powder charges while checking for signs of excess pressure. H4198 worked better than the CFE BLK and would be a good second choice in powder for the 125 gr. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. 0000002505 00000 n For the reasons y'all posted above. The list of match bullets is extensive, typically ranging in weight from 52 to 75 grains (even 80- to 90-grain bullets requiring a faster-twist rate than discussed here). I am new to reloading the .223 round. 1 Single-Shot Rifle: Tips to Improve Its Accuracy, Mossberg Patriot Long-Range Hunter Bolt-Action Rifle: Full Review. The .223 is inexpensive, easy to use well, low recoiling, and often very accurate even with military ball-type ammunition. Like a bolt gun, an AR has hard physical features, but the design and operation are more complex. We need to get one thing straight. , I found that after trying 3 powder choices that 4198 was very accurate and very very clean shooting. I have burned a lot of IMR 4198 in the 223 under a 50gr V-Max. Actually Sycamore, you are sort of right. Have loaded thousands of 50-55 grain in .223 with IMR 4198 begining early 80s. Around 1959, the .222 Special was renamed the .223 Remington to prevent confusion, but it was not introduced commercially until December 1963 in the Remington Model 760 pump-action rifle and was soon chambered in other rifles. 0000016068 00000 n Mag, IMR-4198 was pretty much the go to powder for a couple decades. 62gr: Code: Cartridge : .223 Rem. I think I got it for 45-70 but never used it. Never used it, don't know much about it. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. I got a 8 pound key of 4198 for my wifes bolt action 223. If I find a bad one, I check the rest and put any that fail to fit the gauge aside. As I only reload what I shoot. I would certainly recommend it to others for its consistency. Have found it to be pretty accurate in my Rem model 7. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. If you wanted a longer range varmint load use the 53 V-max and 8208. Both spherical (Ball) and extruded powders can give top performance in the .223 Remington. With-out-doubt. Introduced in 1965 with the .444 Marlin cartridge, the Model 444 was the most powerful lever action of its day. Whether your equipment could or perhaps may have trouble metering it. That would require a call on your part. We recommend upgrading your current browser or. Powder: IMR 4198 36.0 grains Primer: CCI 200 AOL 2.650 I shot some of these this week, and I had three five shot groups all . The smooth burning of this powder makes it a reliable option for hunters from all across the globe. If looking to acquire an automated powder-charge dispensing unit to speed up precision reloading, don't judge the RCBS ChargeMaster Lite powder scale and dispenser by its name; the Little Green machine packs a heavy-weight punch with speed and accuracy. Military Rifles AR-15 (.223) loads. . You must log in or register to reply here. The .223 Remington was developed as a varmint cartridge. One of my two 30/30 loads is a 118 grain, plain-based RFN over seven grains of Unique, which yields a thousand shots to a pound. IMR 4198 has been my .223 powder since about 1981. Probably one of the best powders for use in 556 and 76239, very satisfied with my purchase. If it works well or not depends a lot on the length of your gas system. The selection of suitable powders for handloading the .223 Remington is huge, with some developed specifically to optimize .223 performance. However, I can come close to the published maximums in any of my rifles, even the 26" barreled M-70. 0000009251 00000 n What It Is Not. Initially, sporting rifles chambered for the .223 Remington and mil-spec AR pattern rifles designed to fire the M193 Ball cartridge featured a 1:12 rifling twist. IMR 4198. 0000005092 00000 n sometime since then, Hodgdon has gone back to Canadian-produced IMR-4198. of IMR-4198. Right now I'm liking 24.5gr of RL15. bullet weight. JavaScript is disabled. 0000014422 00000 n 0 $fGNV^fj2aKQ6AwJV0jt[+.7#F]QI',UB/=wQ};.yG44;}!G/2;'PsOsCd.Y+0A0q4Z'sYOa(ZTC|0Yv E\n.iI. IMR4198 is used by a lot of cast bullet shooters, loads are in many of the manuals. IMR4198 is all Ive used in 223 and 222, since about 1982. And, fortunately, nobody can work the bolt fast enough to extract the case while theres residual pressure in the barrel. (SAAMI) Bullet : .224, 62, Nosler HP 35631 Useable Case Capaci: 26.121 grain H2O = 1.696 cm Cartridge O.A.L. This donation drive helps fund Cast Boolits for an entire year, and helps support our 2nd amendment rights! Burns consistently and clean. I'm waiting for it to come back into stock. Try this? The original load was a 160-gr. 53 0 obj << /Linearized 1 /O 55 /H [ 1080 229 ] /L 77671 /E 25013 /N 10 /T 76493 >> endobj xref 53 33 0000000016 00000 n 4198 works excellent in my son's Savage 10 Varmint .223 bolt rifle. Starting at 20.7g, and going up in .5g i. I haven't seen it as often in the equipment lists for the past years. Have not got a chance to shoot this powder yet but I do have a bunch of charges weighed up and I must say while weighting it out the consistency of the powder looks great. Examples include the Hornady SP SX and V-MAX, Sierra HP and BlitzKing, Nosler Varmageddon HP and Ballistic Tip, Speer TNT and Barnes Varmint Grenade. If ammunition is to be used in extremely cold temperatures, a magnum primer is suggested, especially when using spherical powders. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - 223 loads with IMR 4198. I will try and remember to post the results here in case anyone else was wondering the same thing. 4198 with a 55 gr. of muzzle energy and really puts the Hornady Leverevoltion to shame. HVr+S&A(U#`H `hP{z#^\EL9O$$EAL2e|j p,~E3w?#' You are using an out of date browser. Some swage, while others cut the pocket rim material out of the way. Ten weighed cases averaged 89.4 grains (without primers) and held 30.8 grains of water. Sierra lists different maximums between bolt & autos. It is a bit too fast for optimum results with heavier bullets. 0000024785 00000 n A few examples include the Ruger American (1:8), Mossberg MVP (1:9) and Thompson/Center Encore (1:10). It was very clean burning and did not gunk up the gas tube, leading to the original reputation that the rifle was extremely reliable and really didn't need cleaning. I recently bought reloading equipment for my son-in-law and grandsons to reload the .45-70 for Ohio deer hunting. He said it was loaded for his T/C pistol and he sold the pistol and forgot to give the guy the ammo. I've never used any of the H powders (4198,4831, etc) just to keep the number of variables down. I'm dialing in RL15 and CFE223. In my opinion H-4198 or IMR 4198 either are good choices.

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